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The Leadership Podcast

The Leadership Podcast

Why do we do this?

We interview great leaders, review the books they read, and speak with highly influential authors who study them.

How we do this?

#1 We interview great leaders.
#2 We review the books great leaders read and write.
#3 We have fun!

Sep 12, 2018

Justin and Lauren Jonesy have made adventure their full time career. They are challenging the conventional, and valuing experiences over possessions.  They’re intentionally creating a life with their family that is meaningful, sustainable, and connected. They discuss the lessons they learned in the Outback and how they apply to the boardroom. Finally, they share their trials and triumphs, and why you may see them out in the wild with an Ikea high chair.


Key Takeaways

[3:07] Justin and Lauren find that adventure gives them a chance to press “pause” and “reset” on our everyday responsibilities and busy schedule. It’s an opportunity to challenge yourself, expand your possibilities and get in touch with your primitive side.

[4:35] Lauren and Justin both love adventure, often for different reasons. Lauren appreciates the softer side of adventure - a time for reflection, conversations and the journey. Justin is focused on the destination and hitting specific markers to ensure they are on track. This may be compared to a business or corporate team where different members have varying motivations for wanting to accomplish a task.

[11:43] Lauren and Justin remind us that adventure can be big and bold in the Outback, or if it can be something such as acting in a play or learning a new language. Adventure pushes our boundaries and shows us we are capable of more than we think.

[14:48] Similar to the way that businesses adapt their action plans over time, Lauren and Justin redefined their vision and mission statement when they had their daughter Morgan. Traversing the outback with a young one certainly wasn’t easy, but instead of giving up, they adapted to their current environment.

[20:05] Strong leadership teams compromise and come up with a solution so that everyone is on the same goal. It is important to understand the motivations that all members are coming from.

[22:30] There is not room for failure in the Outback, so Justin and Lauren do their best to keep failure for the trial runs. While hiking with a little one they soon learned that perfection is not possible, and their benchmark for internal satisfaction is based on grit and determination rather than getting things right.

[28:23] Fear keeps you sharp, and a sign you are on the right track for learning and growth. Don’t let fear stop or stall you you, move to engage.

[30:44] Find your purpose. Aligning with what lights you up and inspires you up is what the world needs.

[34:26] Success was defined by other people. Escape from Alcatraz. Sustainability move to Australia, met a bloke.

[38:31] Traits that Justin and Lauren feel make up good leaders both in adventure and business: collaboration, teamwork, empathy and focus on others.

[44:21] Lauren shares her feeling of “adventure zen” when the reality of their possibilities expanded, and their hard work paid off.



  • Adventure is an activity with an unknown outcome.
  • Are you building a life you don’t need a vacation from?
  • You can get money, but you can’t get back time or health.
  • Fail during trials. You don’t want to fail on an expectation, because you can’t afford to.
  • If you don’t have failure, there will be no learning and growth.
  • Find and chase what lights you up and makes you curious.



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